Abuse by Women Religious (nuns and sisters)

Contact: Mary Dispenza
Phone: 425-941-6001
Email: [email protected]

Contact: Marya Dantzer
Phone: 617-448-6039 (Voicemails only)
Email: [email protected]

Contact for Serbia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Croatia, Montenegro, Kosovo, North Macedonia, Slovenia

Franka Miloloža

[email protected]

 

Contact for Peru:

María La Rosa Matuk

+51 941 695 920

[email protected] (María checks this account daily)

 

A virtual support group for those abused by nuns/women religious (Survivors of Abuse by Nuns/Women Religious) is led by Marya Dantzer and meets every Wednesday from 8-9:30 PM Eastern Time. These meetings are for those abused by nuns/women religious who are over the age of majority. Contact Marya for the login information.

 

Contact: Marya Dantzer
Phone: 617-448-6039 (Voicemails only)
Email: [email protected]

 

A second virtual support group for those abused by nuns (Nun-2) is led by Mary Dispenza and meets every other Monday from 5-6:30 PM Pacific Time. These meetings are for those abused by nuns/women religious who are over the age of majority. Please call or e-mail Mary if you are interested in participating.

Contact: Mary Dispenza
Phone: 425-941-6001
Email: [email protected]

SNAP National Office

Contact: Melanie Sakoda, SNAP Survivor Support Director
Phone: 925-708-6175
Email: [email protected]

Melanie is located in the San Francisco Bay Area

Contact: Shaun Dougherty, SNAP Interim Executive Director
Phone: 814-341-8386
Email: [email protected]

Shaun is located in Western Pennsylvania

Introduction

By Mary Dispenza

NUNS, NUNS, NUNS. I used to be one. I loved the nuns. It was a long time after I left my religious community that I remembered the day a superior took my 18-year-old face between her hands and kissed me all over. It was years before I finally named this incident as abuse, not just a “creepy” story. A small invasion, some may think – just kisses. Yet it left a lasting impact of confusion with me. In that moment spirituality and abuse came face to face trapped between the superior’s hands as her power loomed over me.

Unlike being abused by a priest who is “GOD,” men and women sexually violated by nuns must contend with the belief that women, especially nuns, would never, ever hurt a child. We hear expressions like “Women don’t do that,” “Women are caring and maternal”. While mostly this is true some women, rape, physically abuse, and irreparably ridicule and shame children, mostly because of their power - often as teachers, Mothers, and nuns. Nuns have the added benefit of the “halo” effect because of their Godly stature and reputation of kindness and love.

Men abused as boys by nuns carry deep shame, believing they were weak, a sissy, not boy or ‘man’ enough to stand up to Sister when week after week she either punched him, kissed him, bullied him, put him over her lap and beat him, or had sex with him. Young girls abused and used by nuns have the additional burden of unravelling the belief that they were in love with the nun, and that she was in love with them. As adults, women survivors often must face the fact that it wasn’t love, not even an affair – it was sexual abuse. They know what a ‘broken heart’ feels like and the betrayal that goes with it. Girls abused by nuns often speak of the psychological and spiritual damage done to them, stolen childhood and adolescent years of friendships, dates, dances, and often God.

Women Religious orders are very closed systems, more so than the priesthood. Religious communities often function like an incestuous family protecting each other at all costs from being exposed as sexual predators among them. Their culture is built on secrecy, power, and protecting the sisterhood. It has been nearly impossible to break through this wall of secrecy. Survivors abused by nuns are ignored by most religious orders and the Catholic Church. Justice is mostly an illusion. The Leadership Conference of Religious Woman (LCRW) has yet to show any desire to work with survivors in healing themselves, the past, present, and in shaping a safer future for children and adolescents. SNAP is working to change that. The timeline below shows the actions SNAP has taken to date.

Timeline

  • 2002 - LCWR refuses to participate in USCCB’s “Policy for the Protection of Children”
  • April 5, 2002 - LCWR issues statement on clerical abuse
  • August 24, 2002 - LCWR National Board issues statement on sexual abuse
  • June 12, 2004 - Nun survivors meet for the first time in Denver at SNAP Conference
  • July 13, 2004 - Hand-delivered to LCWR and USCCB from nun survivors regarding Plan of Hope, Respect, and Open Healing. Also requested nun survivors be allowed to speak at LCWR-CMSM Joint Assembly in Ft. Worth. To date, we received no answer from USCCB.
  • August 5, 2004 - Letter to LCWR from SNAP expressing dismay over their decision not to let us speak
  • August 9, 2004 - E-mail to National Review Board to intervene on our behalf
  • August 13, 2004 - LCWR Press Release: Response of LCWR President Sister Constance Phelps, SCL saying we can’t speak in Ft. Worth
  • August 19 to 22, 2004 - Joint LCWR – CMSM Assembly in Ft. Worth, TX. Nun survivors attempt to attend event but are refused.
  • October 3, 2004 - Meeting with LCWR Leadership in Chicago
  • November 22, 2004 - LCWR letter to SNAP refusing to work with SNAP members who are survivors of sexual abuse committed by nuns and sisters
  • August 2, 2005 - Not allowed to speak at LCWR National Conference in Anaheim, CA; we are present – we delivered letter
  • August 17, 2006 - Not allowed to speak at LCWR National Conference in Atlanta, GA; we are present – we delivered letter
  • August 24, 2007 - LCWR contacts us to meet to talk but LCWR does not provide an agenda after numerous requests; Not allowed to speak at LCWR National Conference in Kansas City
  • September 19, 2007 - LCWR responds to SNAP, denying all five requests
  • August, 2008 - LCWR rebuffs us via letter; SNAP holds night-time vigil
  • October 9, 2008 - SNAP meets with Council of Major Superiors of Women Religious in St. Louis; requests are denied
  • February 23, 2009 - SNAP asks to speak at the LCWR conference in New Orleans
  • March 26, 2009 - LCWR denies all of SNAP's requests
  • August 11, 2009 - Not allowed to speak at LCWR Conference in New Orleans; we deliver letter
  • August 14, 2010 - Not allowed to speak at LCWR Conference in Dallas; we are present
  • August 16, 2011 - LCWR National Conference in Garden Grove, California
  • August 7, 2012 - LCWR National Conference in St Louis; SNAP members deliver letter and hold vigil
  • August 8, 2012 – Letter sent to Bishops
  • August 2018 – Designed a Power Point Presentation giving statistics/data about nuns in the United States as abusers (2019) Will be updated for 2023.  (Dan McNiven and Mary Dispenza)
  • April 3, 2019 -- SNAP forms first support group for those abused by nuns
  • August 16, 2019 – First time ever and the last time since that any leader of the LCWR spoke openly and honestly about their role in abusing and harming children. 
  • February 21-24, 2019 – SNAP in Rome during the Papal summit on the Abuse of Minors. the first press conference on Nuns Abusers was held followed by a MARCH to the main headquarters – the UISG (International Union of Superiors General). A letter was delivered outlining concerns and demands of survivors abused by nuns. The letter was never acknowledged. SNAP representatives were Mary Dispenza, Tim Lennon, Esther Hatfield Miller, and Carol Midboe.
  • February 23, 2019 – During the Papal Summit SNAP joined with ECA (Ending Clergy Abuse) in the Global “March for Zero” Tolerance through the streets of Rome.
  • August 14, 2019 – Mary O’day, Mary Dispenza, Tim Lennon, and a small group from SNAP protested outside The Fairmont Hotel in Scottsdale, Arizona in 115-degree heat. Snap was denied access to the Hotel property. SNAP’s demands of LCRW were to speak at conference, have religious orders mount an aggressive outreach drive to find and help others violated by nuns, Post names on its websites of credibly accused child molesting nuns, urge Attorney Generals investigating clergy sex crimes and cover ups to include nuns and their victims in these probes, and to beg anyone who may have seen, suspected or suffered wrongdoing to come forward, start healing, protect others and call law enforcement. (David Clohessy). TV and media coverage of this event was excellent.
  • February 19 -22, 2020 – Four SNAP representatives were sent once again to the Bishop’s summit in Rome: Tim Lennon, Sean Dougherty, Brenda Brunelle, Kevin Bourgeois, and Mary Dispenza. Their message to the Bishops and Pope Frances was “WE ARE NOT GOING AWAY.”
  • On the second day of the 2020 summit another press conference was held on Abuse by Nuns/Religious women. Another march took place. This time the goal was to speak to Sister Pat head of LCRW at that time. The good news is that Mary Dispenza and Tim Lennon sat around the small table with Sister Pat. Concerns were share by Tim and Mary on behalf of survivors. Upon returning to US, Mary Dispenza wrote a follow up letter to Sister Pat. Several months later Mary received a very short thank you of no substance
  • February 25, 2021 – An article in the National Catholic reporter features four survivor’s stories, and a conversation with Mary Dispenza and Sister Carol Zinn of LCWR. In the article Carol Zinn said that Mary Dispenza was asked to speak to LCWR, and she declined. That was not the truth.
  • April 24, 2021 – Breaking Free, Personal SNAP Stories by Those Abused by Nuns was aired. 
  • December 21, 2021 – Mary Dispenza, SNAP, speaker at Voices of Faith International 2021 Conference on Abuse of Power Inside the Church. (see Document 7)
  • February, 2022 – Started second Support Group for Those Abused by Nuns
  • July 22-24, 2022 – SNAP Denver 22 Conference. A breakout session called “What About Nuns? Was presented by Mary Dispenza and 2 survivors of Nun abuse, Gabrielle Longhi and Marya Danzer.

Documents:

Document 1: Letter sent to bishops (Aug. 8, 2012)

Dear Archbishop Sartain Bishop Blair, Bishop Paprocki

We write you with great sadness and reluctance. Each of you, like most of your colleagues, has done a poor job of dealing with child sex abuse and cover up. Still, each of you have a chance to prod US nuns to do a better job in this regard. For the sake of prevention, healing, openness and justice, we hope you seize this opportunity.

We have little faith in "internal" church "investigations" and reports on clergy sex crimes and cover ups. We have even less faith when they're conducted by bishops or “outside” firms hand-picked and hired by bishops.

Still, something is often better than nothing. That’s the case today with abuse and cover up by nuns. Right now, there's very little known about child sex crimes and cover ups by nuns. No one's apparently trying to learn more. And as best we can tell, no one inside or outside of the nuns’ community is trying to prod them to do a better job of protecting the vulnerable and healing the wounded.

So with considerable reluctance and distrust, we're asking you to expand your “oversight” of the LCWR into what the organization – and America’s religious orders of women- are doing and are not doing regarding child sex crimes and cover ups by nuns.

Why does this matter? Because we believe that

  • many abusive nuns have never been exposed or disciplined.
  • many who have seen, suspected or hidden their crimes have similarly never been exposed or disciplined
  • many who were abused by nuns have coped by essentially denying and mischaracterized the crimes they suffered, and minimizing the impact of those crimes, so they suffer in confusion, denial, isolation, shame and self-blame.

We suspect that fewer nuns molest than priests. (Research suggests that more men are sexual predators.) At the same time, however, that’s just speculation. And regardless of the rates or percentages of abuse, two other facts are important. First, there are more nuns than priests. (55,944 nuns in the US versus 41,406 priests) Second, many more nuns had more access to more kids, largely because they worked and work in schools.

Ultimately, however, the numbers or percentages are not especially relevant. If there are 400 or 4,000 or 40,000 adults who were victimized by nuns in this country, every single one of them deserves help. And if there are 4 or 40 or 400 children who may be victimized in the future by nuns in this country, they need protection.

Again, we take this step with great sadness and reluctance. Everyone knows most nuns don’t commit or conceal child sex crimes. Everyone knows that most nuns do wonderful, selfless work, often to help society’s marginalized.

But we see little or no evidence that nuns – either in or through the LCWR or their individual orders – are in any way, shape or form “trailblazers” in making the church or our society safer from clergy child predators or making substantial contributions to the healing of those who suffer because of clergy child predators.

It’s a painful truth to acknowledge. It’s unusual and unsettling for us to seek your help in dealing with it. But our concern – for the vulnerable and the wounded – and our inability to get the LCWR to be more pro-active, leave us with few other options.

Click HERE to download a .zip archive of correspondence between SNAP and the LCWR, SNAP and LCWR press releases, and other coverage of the groups (4.76 mb

Document 2: Face facts, says LCWR president: Sisters have been part of Catholic Church sexual abuse scandal by Dan Stockman (August 6, 2019)

Document 3: Leadership groups condemn abuse by nuns but leave solutions to local congregations by Dawn Araujo-Hawkins. (Feb 25, 2021)

Document 4: Letter International Union of Superiors General (UISG) March 3, 2020

Dear Sister Pat and members of the Board,

Thank you for welcoming Tim Lennon and myself to the table to meet with you. We were very grateful to have time to share our concerns and listen to yours. This is the first time anyone from SNAP has been invited to sit and talk face to face with someone from the leadership team of UISG or LCRW. It was a welcomed moment especially for me.

For the past two years, I have had the honor and challenge of listening to survivors of physical, emotional, and sexual abuse by nuns in various orders. Some survivors are nuns within religious communities who were abused by nuns still living in community — others were abused as children, teens, and vulnerable adults. There is something new resounding in the stories I hear. Besides pain, anger, and loss, I hear a deep, burning desire and longing for justice from each survivor — justice for what was lost and taken from them by nuns they trusted. As I see it, this is where you, as religious women, come into the story.

Clearly, we can’t undo the past. We can face it. Work to understand it, so as to end it. Most importantly, we can transform the past by right and just actions now.

What follows are 3 areas of immediate concern to survivors that hopefully lead to a continued conversation between us:

Survivors who were or are nuns and experienced sexual, emotional, or psychological abuse within their communities want their perpetrators gone, reports filed and their names and reason for leaving the community posted. They also want the secrecy about it all to stop. They want their religious communities to engage in candid and open conversation about the problem.

Adult survivors of sexual, physical, and emotional abuse by nuns as children, teens, vulnerable adults who have registered a valid complaint want religious superiors to listen to their stories seriously, believe them and work with them for resolution and justice. They want right action when it is warranted such as filing a report with local authorities and removing the perpetrator from children or other potential victims. Some want and desperately need financial recompense for their pain and suffering. Some want reconciliation and an apology. All want to be believed. All want religious communities to acknowledge that they failed to protect them.

Survivors find some hope in Pope Frances, moto propio, which took effect last June 2019 and instituted for the first time a mechanism for reporting and investigating allegations of sexual abuse and offers protections to whistle-blowers yet falls short of any set consequences or reporting of crimes to law enforcement. The pope expanded his view of abuse to include children, people with mental disabilities, seminarians, nuns and women in religious orders, children in orphanages, indigenous people—all of whom have been victimized by leaders in Church and religious orders. The law also demanded that alleged victims must receive, support services and all they need for their healing journey.  Survivors would like to know that the UISG and LCRW have in place policies and procedures for handling allegations of abuse, including reporting them to local law enforcement agencies.

I hope these ideas on our minds as survivors of nun abuse give us some starting points for discussion. It’s our desire that we continue to dialogue with the shared goal of finding ways to protect children from all types of abuse, especially by those they trust, and to give survivors of the past the justice they do desire and deserve.  I have always held these lines from scripture as essential to my life, “And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God.” (Micah 6:8.)

Thanks, Sister Pat, and members of the Board for this opportunity to work together.

Respectfully, Mary Dispenza,

SNAP Leader for those Abused by Nuns.

CC: SNAP Executive Director, Zach Hiner

        SNAP President, Tim Lennon

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  • Michael Philips
    commented 2013-05-08 10:22:09 -0500
    In 1962 no one have believed that these religious were anything but kind, sweet, non-sexual beings. It’s time we all let the cat out of the bag. Thank you for speaking out!
  • Bonnie Richard
    commented 2013-05-07 19:28:17 -0500
    leigh—I am sorry -and these people who was a cannon lawyer and president of convent had the nerve to say ’i had no proof ’ it sickened me so much – they just said ’it was so long ago; ’ yea sure -this nun poisen in my food-that almost killed me at 8—then the nun had me touch her-then say the goverment would take me away if i would not do what she asked— then she came into our home over 15 times and one authority just said—‘that does not fit the legal term for abuse’ they are liers—and just plain abusers who NOW AFTER 1962 STILL PROTECT
  • Leigh Genniss
    commented 2013-05-07 17:50:23 -0500
    this is the worst church they hide everything and then have the nerve to go onTV and celebrate they preach trhth and lie like rugs!i went to amilitary school and the nuns were the worst abusers they hit kids with base ball bats ,straps, large wooden paddles they slapped faces,pulled hair you name it. I have some of the worst stories you,ve ever heard! Leigh Genniss.
  • Bonnie Richard
    commented 2013-05-07 16:09:57 -0500
    I just reported the nun who abused me in 2012 and the church officals lied -to the point that named a school near new orleans that she was in at TIME OF MY ABUSE 1962— 63 they the school informed me last month -;she was NEVER THERE AT ANY POINT-I dont know if david can help me get this to media put someone who still protects abusers after 40 years must not be reliable to be president of a convent
  • Leigh Genniss
    commented 2013-03-09 12:43:57 -0600
    I was approx.16 years old when a priest came by in a car and picked up one of my friends took him to a motel and had sex with him! this was about1959! my thoughts are this religion has been doing this for hundereds of years,especially when you look at all the women they persecuted through history !why did they do it? obviously the women new to much! can you imagine the thousands of children that were molested in the name of the LORD!again I ask how many nieces nephews of cardinals, bishops,and popes do you think were molested by priests through history?guaranteed not many to NONE! post this note at the vatican and ask this question!
  • Annette Kissell Nestler
    commented 2013-02-24 17:53:42 -0600
    I wish I hadn’t just read that, Mike. I feel ill at that image. YIKES!!!
  • Michael Philips
    commented 2013-02-24 13:32:08 -0600
    My point exactly, celibacy also creates other problems, as example since natural sexual outlets are not permitted, more concealed forms of gratis faction are served such as covert pedophelia. Imagine the thrill for the pedophile priest to be serving the communion with everyone kneading before him with thier mouths open and eyes closed.
  • Annette Kissell Nestler
    commented 2013-02-23 18:23:18 -0600
    After writing the story, I posted the other day, I started to think about the nuns and the phyisical abuse (violence) that children have suffered, at their hand. My father-in-law, who passed in 2000, was raised Catholic, as a boy, and left it, never to be involved with Catholosism, again, because of the physical abuse he suffered by nuns. He shared this with me, during talks we had, in the few years, I knew him. As a result, his wife (my mother-in-law), took her children to the Lutheran church to receive sacriments, when they were growing up. My father-in-law, even on his death bed, never could go back. In his final days, he spoke only to the local Lutheran minister but before that never had anything to do with the church, because of his experience of violence.
    I, also, experienced physical violence, in the school, I mentioned, in my last story. (St. Francisis of Assisi Parish, now Divine Mercy, in Vineland, NJ) Here is my story: During my schooling in the 8th grade, the nuns and teachers came up with a morning routine, they wanted us kids to follow. First thing, as the school day started, we were given song sheets and asked to line up in the hallway (there was only K-8th grade, one classroom each), so the line extended right down the center of the school hallway. We were to all sing together, a song or two, to start off our day. One day, toward the end of my 8th grade year, we were lining up for the ritual. Unfortuately, for me, a friend, goofing around in the class took my songsheet, so I did not have one. Kids were lining up, so I joined the line without a songsheet, figuring, what did it matter, I was singing. During the song, our 8th grade teacher, a nun named Siser DC, came up to me and told me to go back to the classroom. I resisted a bit, wondering why, but I went back. She sent others back, as well, for various reasons. Well, after the singing was done and everyone back in the classroom, those of us that were told, to return and sit were each given a punishment. We were told to write the songsheet out a couple of time. When she (the nun), got to me and told me to write the sheet out two or three times (?), I spoke up and questioned her. I asked “Why?” This started to anger her and she said, “You did not have your song sheet”. I did want to say my friend had jokingly taken it, so I said, “What does it matter, I was singing?” The arguement began to escalate until she said, “Well, maybe, you shouldn’t be going to school here.” I stood up, upset, and agreed, and said, “Maybe, I shouldn’t”. I was upset and starting to make my way to the classroom door, I wanted to get out of there. Sister DC, became very anger and smacked me right across the mouth. At that point, (knowing what I know now), I would decsribe the feeling I had as sirreal. Everything went into slow motion, I was shaking and I clenched my fist and punched her back, right in the stomach. She turned to the class and said, “Did everyone, see that, she hit me, she hit me.” I ran out the classroom door and down the hall to the principal’s office (another nun). The kids in the classroom were chanting “Run, Annette, run” and Sister DC was running down the hallway after me. I ran as fast as I could, so I could get to the principal before Sister DC got ahold of me. My grandmother was called in, and I was suspended for a day but still allow to graduate the 8th grade.
    I know the story in long, but my point, in all of this is the PHYSICAL VIOLENCE. I’ve been reading some articles relating to sexuality and the RC hierarchy, and all I can say is, I’m back to the sexual frustration of these women. I believe it leads to PHYSICAL VIOLENCE!!! When one is sexually happy and satisfied, they are not so easy to anger and become violent. The church teaching celibasy if fundamentally wrong. It goes against NATURE’S WAY!!! Going against nature’s way, is never a good idea.
  • Michael Philips
    commented 2013-02-17 16:49:56 -0600
    I really appreciate your candor and insightful ness of this issue.i personally believe that any person who takes a vow of celabisy is in some way mentally compromised. The belief that sexual fulfillment is in some way a sin or an evil act, and passing this philosophy on to the younger generation as sex offending god, allows the religious members to consider other less natural ways of sexual fulfillment, acceptable. If natural sexual desire is condemned, then other secretive sexual desires are grouped in as subliminal ion alternatives, and as such are acceptable to people of this mindset. To allow these people to raise &teach our young children, after seeing and beginning to understand how they operate, is un forgivable. These religious groups still today are able to con their host families who believe that none of these things happen, and send their precious innocent un-damaged children to become victims of their hypo racy.
  • Annette Kissell Nestler
    commented 2013-02-17 09:01:15 -0600
    Frank, the story I have to offer, shows how the nuns, scarificed children and their reputations and families reputations, to protect the hierarchy, just like the Bishops, etc. do. It is a story that shows how they protected each other and their evil ways, over loving children, yet their teachings are about family, a direct contradiction. I spent 7th and 8th grade in Catholic school. We used to have basketball games, in the evening, and some of us kids, would go to cheer the teams on. One night, while, at the school, at St. Francis of Assisi Parish, in Vineland, NJ (now called Divine Mercy, after the church mergers), a few of us were at one of the basketball games. It was common for some of the kids to leave the aduitorium and run around the school outside, as there was no supervision. The priest in charge, of the parish, (Fr. Richard Gerbino), was involved with children/vunerable adults, and all kinds of money problems, I read about when I was older. Well, this one night, at a basketball game, I was inside with a few friends, a couple of kids came running in from around back of the school. It was dark outside, because the days were short. They said, to us, quick, come with us, you have to see this, the fourth grade teacher (a man married with two kids) and the fifth grade teacher (a younger, attractive nun), are in the fourth grade classroom making out. Well, being perfectly honest, I didn’t believe the kid who was saying this, because I was being taught and raised that holy people didn’t do things like that. (priest, nuns, etc.). I was only 12 years old, without my parents, and being raised by my immigrant grandmother. A certain mindset was being indoctrinated into us, regarding sexuality and the perception of the church heirarchy. I can see this as an adult, now. That said, I and a couple of friends, left the auditiorim, and went out back with the girl, Michelle, who called us out. It was dark, we made our way around to the back of the school. The classroom lights were on and the shades up about, a couple of inches, just enough to peek under. Because it was dark out and the lights on, in the class, us kids could see in very well. I peeked in with the others. The fifth grade teacher, nun, in full habit (black), was pushed into the corner and passionately kissing the fourth grade teacher (think his name was Mr. McDonald), he was the one married with two kids. They were holding each other tightly and kissing passionately. I remember well, because I was so shocked. Had I not seen this, for myself, I NEVER would have believed it, based on what I was being taught. I was confused, all us kids, were shocked and laughing. When I went home, I told my grandmother, as other kids, told their parents, what they witnessed. Here is the part that get SO CRAZY!!! The next day, at school, MOTHER SUPERIOR, was there, angry. Everyone knew not to say anything, “Culture of Silence”. We were scared and we were told, that our parents would be being called about us kids lying. They did not want the truth to be told. MOTHER SUPERIOR protected the hierarchy, and sacrificed us kids. WE WERE TELLING THE TRUTH AND CONFUSED. Years later, I saw this nun (the fifth grade teacher), at the same church, during a mass. She was in lay clothes, no longer a nun, and pregnant. (Don’t know who the father was, or whatever, happened to the fourth grade teacher), just know it was all very confusing. Why did MOTHER SUPERIOR, protect the child/vunerable adult abusing priest and the hierarchy, over us children. What did we do wrong? Yet we were treated like the offenders. WE WERE INNOCENT CHILDREN. WHAT WOULD MOTHER SUPERIOR’S MOTIVE BE? As an adult, and knowing all I know now, with all the caos that occurred, at that church, I believe perhaps women like her, have been victimized, in some way, perhaps sexual or other and out of defensiveness (not dealing with their own abuse issues), they took a path of psychologically entering into a silent pact, with the male hierarchy. Meaning, their own sexuality was stiffled from their own childhood or life trauma, so they became frigid and rigid. These are prefect qualifications for becoming a nun. As kids, I used to hear, some of the adults making jokes and saying things like, Why are they called nuns? Because they don’t get none, and everyone would laugh. It is all so sad and kids were sacrificed again, because of a sick concept regarding human sexually. The sicker this cycle becomes, the more control the hierarchy impliments. It’s a defense of their own abuse. SO SAD!!! WE WERE ALL SACRIFICED.
  • Michael Philips
    commented 2013-02-15 21:12:54 -0600
    Read my story
  • Frank Laferriere
    commented 2013-01-28 19:03:17 -0600
    I have my own blog called Rape Victims of the Catholic Church and try as hard as I may, I can barely find any stories to post about nuns who abuse. I sure would love some help being pointed in the right direction so I can also help in exposing this evil.
  • Frank Lostaunau
    commented 2012-10-07 22:35:43 -0500
    What I enjoy doing is volunteering for BishopAccountability. They are a wonderful organization full of folks with big hearts! My job is to track down photos of perps that are listed on their site. So many perps and their supporters have managed to hide their photos and I get such satisfaction when I finally track down a photo of a perp who thinks he/she will never be found. It must really tick them off when all of sudden their face is posted on line for everybody on the planet to view!!!

    All you gotta do is Google BishopAccountability. Click on the color map of the USA. When the names of the various states pops up, click on any state and on a city, then search around on the internet for a photo. It can be difficult because many have been so sneaky and they seem to be able to get lots of help from the church, families, etc. Still, I’ve tracked down dozens of photos and I send them to BA. Trish is the woman that I work for and she is always grateful because she has so much to do that she welcomes all the help. Besides she is very sweet and everybody in San Francisco loves her. Volunteer work is basic to my survival!
  • L N
    commented 2012-10-07 21:57:57 -0500
    correction on post just made. To excuse those who broke hearts with abuse, from the orders. Remove them to laity.
  • L N
    commented 2012-10-07 21:56:58 -0500
    Sound over Silence is SOS. The one thing that the Church can do is to utilize sound. It is a miraculous tool of healing. To admit the wrongdoing. To form a cursillo type psychologist monitored retreat system of apology. To take steps in each congregation to excuse those who have damaged families of devout Catholics with their indiscretions and assault that went far deeper than physical. The violation by a religious is a travesty, a damager of the spiritual heart. You can build all the labyrinths you want at your retreat centers but all roads lead to one. Veritas. That is Latin for the truth. Veritas in sound will set you, and us, free. No more silent treatment. No more denials. No more evasions. Truth. Compassion. Sound Over Silence. SOS.
  • Frank Lostaunau
    commented 2012-09-25 11:52:42 -0500
    May the victims/survivors of sexually abusive nuns thrive. LONG LIVE SURVIVORS! VIVA!
  • Annette Kissell Nestler
    commented 2012-09-20 06:56:34 -0500
    I agree Lillian. The “CULTURE OF SILENCE” has been a double wammy for victims/survivors. First, the pain and trauma of the abuse, then the pain and trauma of not being heard. Like Van Gough, screams in the night that everyone ignores. We will continue to raise our voices loud and clear, so that even those in the deepest depths of denial can no longer shut us out! Lillian, I always loved that song. “Here I am Lord” I can still see myself singing it in church with my grandmother and it brings tears to my eyes and chills to my soul.
  • L N
    commented 2012-09-20 00:45:38 -0500
    To ignore the pain and suffering of survivors is a hypocrisy of faith. There is a song that we sung a lot growing up. It is called “here I am Lord.” “I will hold Your people in my heart” How does one hold a person in their heart and help them through a very difficult healing time from abuse when they are

    1. ignored
    2. ocstracized
    3. experiencing their trauma minimized or dismissed

    I learned that the only way to receive support from women religious for the most part…is not to be a survivor. Unfortunately I am one. Thus, ignored.

    Here’s the thing though. I don’t have to understand my faith the way they do. I do not need to emulate the silent treatment.

    I call for a change, for sound over silence, for no more evasion. Face the truth, deal with it, heal it and we need to move forward, removing those who have crossed the line from the ranks. Purge your congregations. Stop making excuses and face what has happened and please, for the love of your God please stop using the silent treatment with us. You make it many times worse when you ignore survivors. It was awful!
  • Annette Kissell Nestler
    commented 2012-08-08 00:40:00 -0500
    The LCWR must also take responsibility, or lack there of, for it’s actions.
    Annette Nestler
  • Snap Admin Admin
    published this page in Resources 2012-08-07 11:24:35 -0500

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